fredag 16 oktober 2009

Science and Metaphysics (was: Will Higgs Bosun particle turn out to be God?)

Dear Judy

I refuse to speak of "religion" at all in these circles since the term is so infected, but instead I speak of "metaphysics".
Metaphysics is not something we choose to do, it is something we do whether we like it or not, without metaphysics we would all be mad. Even the idea that we exist as human beings is a metaphysical idea. Physically there are only six billion bodies on this planet. Only through metaphysics do these bodies become "humans".
Once people recognize that metaphysics is a necessity (even the whole concept of science is metaphysical) they are open to the question: What metaphysics do we choose then if we must choose one?
And this is where Mazdayasna presents a 3,700-year-old brilliant alternative!

Ushta
Alexander

2009/10/16 Judy Weismonger



Thank you Alexander....my po9nt is not that I agree with any of the below "god particle" stuff...but that in the common vernacular, there is a movement toward understanding what a "god" might be as explained by either poor, or speculative science...which is at least a step toward moving many away from Abrahamic religion and toward science.

How does one explain the sophisticated concepts of Zism or Mazdayasminism....to such a populace who has been polluted with the idea that god is an old guy with a long beard, sitting up on a cloud, waving his hands and throwing thunder bolts down to earth...and think its really neat that he "sent his only son..." to commit suicide?

This mass consciousness is taking baby steps....but at least they are moving away from Abraham and toward science....finally. Far be it from me...to criticize such baby steps.

Hugs, Judy




--- On Wed, 10/14/09, Alexander Bard wrote:


From: Alexander Bard
Subject: [Ushta] Will Higgs Bosun particle turn out to be God? (Particle turns energy into mass)
To: Ushta@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 9:37 AM



Dear Judy

I believe this is just speculative nonsense. Serious scientists hate terms like "The God Particle" which overstates the importance of the Higgs boson. What makes them irritated is that they still have not found the particle although all leading theories predict it exists and have done so for the past 40 years. It is a curious particle indeed, and very likely to exist.

Ushta
Alexander

2 kommentarer:

Unknown sa...

According to His Holiness Huzur Maharaj, the Second Most Revered Spiritual Head of Radhasoami Faith had stated : “Love or Force of attraction (i.e. the Force of Cohesion) is the Param Tattva or the chief ingredient of the creation, i.e. the entire creation has come into existence out of Love and is sustained by Love.” In scientific terminology this is known as Gravity.

Unknown sa...

Based on my recent comments posted in various blogs , I have postulated a hypothesis. propose. Theoretcal Physics describes four fundamental forces of nature viz., weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force, electromagnetic force and force of gravity. Here we can present an analogy. Weak and strong nuclear forces represent pancha-bhutas or the five elements. Electromagnetic force represents force of current of mind which mainly works through sensory organs and force of gravity represents supra-causal state of Consciousness. We know that during advanced stage of practice of meditation and yoga pancha-bhutas or five elements merge into mind and mind into supra-causal state of Consciousness and ultimately Individual Consciousness merges into Cosmic Consciousness. This is the state of Perfect Bliss or Self-Realization. Likewise during the reverse process of Cosmic Evolution i.e. Perfect Dissolution of the Universe, weak and strong nuclear forces merge into electromagnetic force and electromangnetic force merges into force of gravity.

In the beginning, the enetire Creation came into existence from this Single Force Current which later on manifested into many force currents during the process of Cosmic Evolution.

Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator, this paper I presented at the 1st Int. Conf. on Revival of Traditional Yoga, held at The Lonavla Yoga Institute (India), Lonavla, Pune in 2006. The Abstract of this paper is given below:

The Universe includes everything that exists. In the Universe there are billions and billions of stars. These stars are distributed in the space in huge clusters. They are held together by gravitation and are known as galaxies. Sun is also a star. Various members of the solar system are bound to it by gravitation force. Gravitation force is the ultimate cause of birth and death of galaxy, star and planets etc. Gravitation can be considered as the cause of various forms of animate and inanimate existence. Human form is superior to all other forms. Withdrawal of gravitational wave from some plane of action is called the death of that form. It can be assumed that gravitation force is ultimate creator. Source of it is ‘God’. Gravitational Field is the supreme soul (consciousness) and its innumerable points of action may be called as individual soul (consciousness). It acts through body and mind. Body is physical entity. Mind can be defined as the function of autonomic nervous system. Electromagnetic waves are its agents through which it works. This can be realized through the practice of meditation and yoga under qualified meditation instruction. This can remove misunderstanding between science and religion and amongst various religions. This is the gist of all religious teachings – past, present and future.